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  Is the WT’s Paradise Earth doctrine a delusion?

  by deegee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt’s teaching that humans will live forever on a paradise earth will necessitate that given that there will be no more death, then immortal humans will have to be relocated to other planets in order to prevent the earth from becoming overpopulated.. so how many habitable, earth-like planets are there?more and more habitable, earth-like planets would have to become available on a continuous, never-ending basis ad infinitum as mankind’s population grows given that there will be no more death.. the longevity/sustainability of life on these planets will be limited by the fact that the sun serving these planets will eventually die:https://shar.es/1cko6n.

  http://www.space.com/22437-main-sequence-stars.html#sthash.ejbt1xrz.dpuf.

  so immortal humans will have to keep moving from planet to planet.

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  Half banana

  Yes, the WT paradise is a childish delusion.
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  Partaking of emblems

  by sloppyjoe2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this year will be my first for by going to the memorial.

  i will get asked by my parents how i can deny jesus even if i don't believe the end is close.

  my thoughts on this are as follows, bear in mind saying it's all make believe is not an option.. i think that jesus intended for everyone to eat the bread and drink the wine.

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  Half banana

  Just to ease your conscience, the Last Supper was a pagan rite borrowed in striking detail from the cult of Mithras. Unlike the Catholic interpretation, the Mithraic ritual was celebrated just once a year at the spring equinox just like JWs do.
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  Faith and Lies.

  by sparrowdown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you were hooked up to a polygraph machine when you were still an asleep, kool-aid drinking dub and asked if you agree 100% with every single wt teaching (asked as individual questions and collectively), would you have "passed" with no signs of deception?.

  i know, i definitely would not have "passed" such an interegation.

  i would have tripped up on questions about blood, dfing and non jws being marked for destruction just to name a few.

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  Half banana

  I wore a beard, didn't ever believe in 1914 and neither did I think the Devil was real.

  Then I thought later, well if there is no Devil, where is the evidence for God? This was my turning point in escaping from the Borg mentality.
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  Hi your df but your invited to the memorial but we will not welcome you or talk to you .

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  but your welcome to come as guest we just will not talk to you stupid idiot

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  Half banana

  Ritual humiliation=slavish dependancy
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  The argument over wood petrification and the pertification of animal dung?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. social
  2. current

  there's two sides to the explanation of petrified wood not sure yet about what creationists say about petrified dung.

  on one side evelutionists say it's a long process the creationists say it happen rapidly caused by noah's flood and after.

  has anyone really looked into this argument to see if there a decisive way to show the bible believers wrong.

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  Half banana

  Just a qualifying comment Crazyguy. For fecal matter to remain identifiable does not require fossilisation.

  The location within the living site under investigation, i.e. in pits away from the dwellings, the texture and colour of the material and most usefully the contents microscopically examined including bugs which feed on dung, human parasites, undigestable wheat chaff, pips from fruit etc, all can identify human (or other animal) excreta which may be many thousands of years old and too young to be fossil coprolites. These latter tend to be individual specimens, the former tend to be found in voluminous and amorphous deposits.

  Archaeology is such good clean fun!
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  Why is the Bible silent about the real Israel/Egyptian connections?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the bible does connect egypt and israel (including judah), but does not tell the truth about the connection.. an exhibition at the israel museum tells a clearer story.. it tells of two periods of connection;.

  the first connection around 1800 to 1550 bce when canaanites settled in the eastern section of the nile river delta.

  it seems this is the era that saw the development of stories like the joseph story and the mose's story.

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  Half banana

  The history of the Jews is so interesting because it is built on the same unfounded and overblown claims which also powers fundamentalist Christianity.

  Truthfulness and facts are not the motivation factors in either politics or religion. The sucessful leaders of people are aware of this...
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  The argument over wood petrification and the pertification of animal dung?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. social
  2. current

  there's two sides to the explanation of petrified wood not sure yet about what creationists say about petrified dung.

  on one side evelutionists say it's a long process the creationists say it happen rapidly caused by noah's flood and after.

  has anyone really looked into this argument to see if there a decisive way to show the bible believers wrong.

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  Half banana

  Crazy guy, you say "there are two sides to the petrification of wood!?" Not quite sure which sides you are referring to.

  However on this subject it is worth understanding that the stone like covering which can be deposited on a number of objects from certain mineral springs by its water passing over them in an evaporating situation... has nothing to do with petrification.

  Petrification takes a long long time. I believe that crystals of the mineral apatite have been known to form on and inside the bones in an undisturbed cave containing the right mineral environment, sometimes as soon as 25,000 to 28,000 years as a beginning of the process. Petrification, as opposed to mineral coating; is the replacement of the molecules of living tissue with silicaceous (silicon) compounds from the overlying silts and normally takes a minimum fifty to a hundred thousand years. I am familiar with handling bones of bison, horse, elephant and mammoth etc, including teeth and ivory and also wood with ages up to approaching a quarter of million years old, all from local archaeological sites in southern central England, most of which material is not petrified.

  Petrification for dead matter is not the norm, it only happens under very specific circumstances and that is why when specimens are found in good shape it is a great boon to paleontology.

  The whole subject of death, burial and fossilization comes under the discipline of "taphonomy". It is useful to the police forensics as well as archaeologists and paleontologists.

  Fossil dung has to meet the same criteria for preservation so it is extremely hard to see how a global (or local) flood could contribute anything other than the total dispersal of any fecal matter.
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  Hello, fairly new, studying for around 7 months, just thought I would introduce myself.

  by Conanthebeliever in

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  2. experiences

  hello everyone, i hope you are all ok. .

  my name is conan, i am 25, and from the uk.

  i have some brain damage, so i apologise in advance if my syntax is off or i go a long way around explaining things.

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  Half banana

  Hi Conan, glad you made it here. Yes friends are a really good thing to have and helping others for no personal reward shows you love mankind!

  I'm glad too that you have been encouraged to research for yourself.This really is the most important thing for you at your stage of learning.

  If you only were to read one side of a story without the proper knowledge of the facts, it can easily look very distorted.

  Most of us here have been amazed how different things look when you do an unbiased investigation into the reasons for writing the Bible and the origins of religious organisations.

  I hope you enjoy finding out what truth is!
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  Why is the Bible silent about the real Israel/Egyptian connections?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the bible does connect egypt and israel (including judah), but does not tell the truth about the connection.. an exhibition at the israel museum tells a clearer story.. it tells of two periods of connection;.

  the first connection around 1800 to 1550 bce when canaanites settled in the eastern section of the nile river delta.

  it seems this is the era that saw the development of stories like the joseph story and the mose's story.

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  Half banana

  I suggest your question Fulltimestudent, leads to a vital conclusion as to why the Bible was written!

  The essential detail is that Israel was ever historically a subordinate territory and a nation occupied by the prevailing dominant powers, namely Egypt, Babylon and Assyria in succession. Israel remained a backwater for centuries and was the land through which lay the highland route for connecting between the great powers in the north and south. Normally, with fortified garrisons and occupying troops at ten mile intervals or so along the way. No people would celebrate its occupying forces, and to write things down was like a divine edict so Israel would not want to record that indignity.

  Israel (the worshippers of El the father of Jehovah) are first mentioned about 1200 BCE. For some centuries the unproductive highlands of central Canaan had been a refuge for the dispossessed from all over the north of the Levant and Assyria. These were loose bands of refugees called the Ebiru which seems to be the source of the word ‘Hebrew’ (recorded at least from 1500 BCE onwards).

  Unlike the illustrious neighbours such as the highly organised, wealthy, literate and tolerant Egyptians to the south west or the Philistines to the south or the maritime traders the Phoenicians next door to the west; Israel by contrast was very small potato. This is borne out by the archaeology.

  The archaeology of Israel in the British Museum correspondingly shows very little indigenous material other than humble domestic ware intermittently over a long period. The two more interesting areas of finds are the things left behind by the foreign occupiers or objects copied from neighbouring lands. (Jehovah for example was seated idol in imitation of the Egyptian ones, with either an ox head or sometimes a human head with large cow horns). Having said that, the territory of modern Israel has a fascinating archaeological record notable for its continuity stretching back from early human and Neanderthal finds around 90,000 years bp (before present) right the way through the rest of the Old Stone Age and into the New and then on into the Bronze Age and later.

  However the artefacts from native Israel before the early seventh century BCE tend towards revealing a culturally and materially impoverished people and small in population number...don't believe what the Bible says on figures.

  Perhaps it is this very impoverishment and the political impotence of early Israel which drove the people there to create the imaginative Biblical narrative towards the hyperbole of power and military triumph? For certainly the dream of the conquering king is a leitmotif.

  It was the material poverty of Israel which I suggest led to a literature of messianic hope and hence the enduring quality behind the success of the Bible. Truth however has little to do with its content.
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  Animals were created without needing Toilet Paper ... but not Man ... Why???

  by RubaDub in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my dog and other pets do their "business" and run away and are happy.. man does not have that luxury.

  any thoughts on why animals were created with the "poop and go" capacity while man has to go through more steps?

  was this perhaps an additional issue that god added on when adam and eve sinned (such as eve having significant more birth pains)?

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  Half banana

  Chimpanzees have been known to use leaves especially when afflicted with diarrhea (or is that dire rear?)